My Front End Was Just Aligned Need to Replace Abll Joint Does It Need Ro Be Alogned Again
- Asker123 [OP]
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Wheel alignment necessary subsequently lower ball joint replacement?
Settling down in Winnipeg.....
Mechanic failed my machine on safety saying lower brawl joints take play.....
Told the guy that don't endeavor to screw me. This car is Ivan@iGarage certified and Ivan wouldn't let me drive this for 2200 kms with unsafe ball joints...
He said he gets all that but his license is on risk if he certifies a Honda with any play in ball joint( for GM vehicles, its allowed)....
So I become it, Got the lower ball joint replaced...
Do I need an alignment now?
Car was aligned in Toronto in Dec 2017....
Its a Honda Accord 2003
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- Tik
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alignment after brawl joint is not necessary unless your previous alignment was washed when ball joints were bad and loose. If your car is driving sloppy later on ball joints replacement, check other break...
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the worldpac 555 brawl articulation vs original honda 555 take different tiptop. best to do alignment after changing it.........
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Tik wrote: ↑ alignment subsequently ball joint is not necessary unless your previous alignment was washed when ball joints were bad and loose.
This.
The lower ball joint is not an adjustable feature on the Accord. Therefore after replacing it at that place is nothing to adapt.
A loose lower ball joint is a major safety result on the Accordance because it supports the weight of the vehicle (Double wishbone pause). The mechanic was correct to recommend replacement.
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speedkar9 wrote: ↑ This.
The lower ball joint is not an adjustable feature on the Accord. Therefore after replacing it there is zilch to adjust.
A loose lower ball articulation is a major safety issue on the Accord because it supports the weight of the vehicle (Double wishbone suspension). The mechanic was correct to recommend replacement.
Ok., Its just that I saw them.using even.hammer to.pull the old ones out hence I thought may be alignment is needed.
Regarding safety, well I don't call back its such a swell effect because the mechanic himself was saying that if you could have come for regular maintenance I won't have suggested to change them now but I tin can't sign prophylactic certificate with them being loose.
That itself proves , its not as big a safety issue every bit he covering his donkey...But I was ok with that.....
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qaz393 wrote: ↑ the worldpac 555 ball joint vs original honda 555 have dissimilar pinnacle. best to do alignment after changing it.........
What is worldpac 555. They put sankei 555 ball joints.
I was skilful with that because fifty-fifty dealer told that oem.ball articulation come fitted with control.arm so he would put aftermarket ball joint.
This mechanic I went to is sort of Honda adept in Winnipeg and then I had no.choice but to trust him about sankei 555...and aye the ball joints were chip heavier and larger than the one-time ones.
Some other mechanic wanted to put moog but he didn't have moog's problem solver and I didn't want anything else...
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At least get a simple alignment printout to come across if everything is in spec. Information technology tin can't be that much actress. Its already in the shop, on the rack, getting interruption piece of work done. You but traveled 2200 kms and likely hit a few potholes on the mode.
Don't be then cheap.
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speedkar9 wrote: ↑ This.
The lower ball joint is non an adjustable feature on the Accord. Therefore after replacing it there is nothing to adjust.
A loose lower brawl joint is a major safe issue on the Accord considering it supports the weight of the vehicle (Double wishbone suspension). The mechanic was right to recommend replacement.
proper term is lower bj is load carrying. if information technology fails, you lot are out of luck and probably demand an axle
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Asker123 wrote: ↑ What is worldpac 555. They put sankei 555 ball joints.
I was good with that because even dealer told that oem.ball articulation come fitted with control.arm so he would put aftermarket ball joint.
This mechanic I went to is sort of Honda proficient in Winnipeg so I had no.choice but to trust him near sankei 555...and yes the ball joints were bit heavier and larger than the old ones.
Another mechanic wanted to put moog only he didn't have moog's problem solver and I didn't want anything else...
the world pac is made by 555. they exercise use a thicker nut and thread combo. They as well cost less than 1/iii of an original from honda. ~45 vs ~120. honda 555 is fabricated by the same visitor.
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qaz393 wrote: ↑ proper term is lower bj is load carrying. if it fails, yous are out of luck and probably need an beam
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Ball joint and beam are not interlinked. One does not affect the other.
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Pete_Coach wrote: ↑ ?
Ball articulation and beam are not interlinked. 1 does not affect the other.
Prove me a Honda with a failed lower ball joint and reused same beam shaft after....... Please do. Double wishbone like op car.
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Pete_Coach wrote: ↑ ?
Ball articulation and beam are not interlinked. One does not affect the other.
I mean this is a 8th accordance. If ur theory is correct, why does his axle bust? I guess u have a thing for busting axle and reusing it......
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Asker123 wrote: ↑ Settling down in Winnipeg.....
Mechanic failed my car on safety saying lower ball joints take play.....
Told the guy that don't try to screw me. This car is Ivan@iGarage certified and Ivan wouldn't allow me bulldoze this for 2200 kms with unsafe ball joints...
He said he gets all that only his license is on risk if he certifies a Honda with any play in ball articulation( for GM vehicles, its immune)....
So I become it, Got the lower ball joint replaced...
Do I demand an alignment now?
Automobile was aligned in Toronto in December 2017....
Its a Honda Accord 2003
If you mechanic can evidence move for ur optics, believe him....... Brawl joint should take 0 free play.....
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qaz393 wrote: ↑ I mean this is a eighth accordance. If ur theory is correct, why does his axle bust? I guess u have a thing for busting axle and reusing it......
Ummm, did the ball articulation intermission off? Or was it simply loose? If a ball joint actually breaks off on any car information technology tin can cause a lot of harm...not just on a Honda. Merely, equally the OP said, it was loose so, you saying "if it fails, you lot are out of luck and probably need an beam" you simply did not read the OP's mail service.
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qaz393 wrote: ↑ If you mechanic tin prove movement for ur eyes, believe him....... Ball articulation should have 0 free play.....
The fact remains that the mechanic would not give him a laissez passer for the rubber. It was the mechanics license on the line....as he said in his postal service.
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Pete_Coach wrote: ↑ Ummm, did the ball joint pause off? Or was information technology only loose? If a ball joint actually breaks off on any car information technology can cause a lot of impairment...not just on a Honda. But, as the OP said, it was loose so, you saying "if information technology fails, you are out of luck and probably need an axle" you just did not read the OP's mail.
Loose = progress to breaking. Tin u say how many miles it will last when loose??
Pete_Coach wrote: ↑ The fact remains that the mechanic would not give him a pass for the safety. It was the mechanics license on the line....as he said in his postal service.
Ya. Normal mechanic here.....
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qaz393 wrote: ↑ Loose = progress to breaking. Can u say how many miles information technology will last when loose??
Ya. Normal mechanic hither.....
Please, don't effort to justify your error. It tin can concluding for thousands of kms, you have no idea and fifty-fifty then, it may never actually break off..
Not a normal mechanic, simply someone that ensures he does things correct and follows the requirements to protect his reputation and license. Practise you know what is required for a Honda for a Manitoba prophylactic? Oh yea...you lot know everything?
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Pete_Coach wrote: ↑ Delight, don't attempt to justify your error. It can last for thousands of kms, you lot take no idea and even then, it may never actually suspension off..
Not a normal mechanic, just someone that ensures he does things right and follows the requirements to protect his reputation and license. Do you know what is required for a Honda for a Manitoba safe? Oh yea...you know everything?
Wtf? r u okay bro? And then it can break next twenty-four hour period or many years later. Seen that before. It'due south a ticking bomb....... Anyways.....
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2007 Accord with few weeks of dry squeaking, can feel no play from the ball joint, information technology snapped every bit i was pulling out of the driway. Had to supplant drive shaft only lucky it was at abode. As far as i can tell it was original at 220k
2002 Oddyssey soon need ane replaced as i can hear a tick..
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Ok qaz and pete..
Lets get past ball articulation replacement safety need.
I am a laic that if he can let information technology run for i or 2 oil changes if I could have gone for regular maintenance ( thats what he said) , information technology is not a prophylactic issue rightaway and I should accept got a pass. Its only that he was non ready to sign safe cert with the play...Thats double standards...
I really exercise non want to.pay for alignment if not needed. Mechanics here are less in number . Less competition and they accuse more than GTA for same service. Also every mechanic hither collects taxes....
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